Good Books and Resources on Proa & Sailboat Design?

 
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03 November 2013 08:31
 
Editor - 17 January 2013 03:14 PM

The 40-Knot Sailboat, by Bernard Smith. Sadly out of print.

There is one or two on Amazon for “ouch”,  $95.  I would be willing to buy it and pass it on to others if they could pitch in on the cost.

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03 November 2013 12:13
 

I just ordered Dave Gerr’s Boat strength. I hope I get it this week.

Thanks for a lot of very good recommendations!!!

Cheers,
Johannes

 
 
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09 November 2013 14:12
 

I added the Building a Stitch-and-Glue CLC Kayak videos to the list. Basically in about an hour the series takes you through the entire process of building a plywood-fiberglass-epoxy kayak. There’s lots of useful tricks in there, and I think the guys at CLC did a great job of making the videos quite humorous and enjoyable to watch as well. 😊

jak - 03 November 2013 08:31 AM

There is one or two on Amazon for “ouch”,  $95.  I would be willing to buy it and pass it on to others if they could pitch in on the cost.

Thanks,
-jak

I’ve started a new thread with regard to the copyright of the book. It could be that the copyright has expired, or if it hasn’t, perhaps maybe we can get the permission to post it online here, so hang onto your money for the moment: maybe we can all get it for free soon. 😉

 
 
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09 November 2013 15:55
 

The kayak building series is all in one place at CLC here-
http://www.clcboats.com/default/building-stitch-and-glue-kayak.html

And the DVD is available to buy for $16 here-
http://www.clcboats.com/shop/products/boat-building-books-kayaking-dvds/boat-building-kayaking-dvds/zen-of-wooden-kayak-building-dvd.html

The DVD is very good and is wisely recorded in Region 0 which means it will play on any DVD player anywhere in the world.

 
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10 November 2013 02:08
 

Thanks James, I updated the list correspondingly.

 
 
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06 March 2014 16:54
 

I just got my grubby little fingers on “Sail Performance: Techniques to Maximise Sail Power”, and I have to say that anyone planning to use a crab claw sail should read this! I thought I knew what was good, but I was wrong! The experiments are very well done, and the graphs don’t lie.

Also, I just read “Sailloons and Fliptackers”, also by Bernard Smith. It was written after the 40-knot sailboat book, and includes some of his later thinking. It’s a pretty small book, but very interesting. Some very strange and innovative thinking, giant sailing airships and that kind of thing.
-Thomas

 
 
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06 March 2014 16:56
 

Forgot to add, use this website:

http://www.bookfinder.com

to find new and second hand books across many websites. It’s really good.

 
 
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11 April 2014 14:05
 

Yeah, I also think that the section on crab claws in ‘Sail Performance’ is excellent. The only thing which bothers me a bit is that it doesn’t directly give a L/D polar for the reference crab claw sail, like it does for the other sail types, making the comparison to the other sail types at a chosen point of sail a bit tricky. An L/D polar for one of the crab claw variants is given a few pages later though, so you can calculate the values from there. That’s just a minor hink over all though. 😉

After reading ‘Sail Performance’ I’m personally tending toward a dual configuration; a high aspect ratio lateen sail for windward work, and a crab claw for reaching and running. The rigging setup is similar enough that I’m hoping to be able to accommodate both sail types on my proa with a single socket-mounted mast.

 
 
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11 April 2014 18:37
 

I was thinking solid sail crabclaw. Or partly solid at least. It seems no-one has been able to reproduce the windtunnel results in full size though! There’s some stuff if you search back through the proafile yahoo email list. It seems the research isn’t conclusive yet.
-Thomas

 
 
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22 April 2014 08:30
 

I came across some fantastic resources while looking into the hull design of A and C-Class catamarans recently, and I thought I’d share! 😉

This first one is a paper by Steve Killing on the Design of the C-Class Cats Alpha and Rocker, and includes a frontal lines drawing of the hull, and a performance polar for the boat. A very interesting read overall.

The second resource is an article written by team Alinghi, explaining the importance of some hull characteristics, it’s well written and also provides a good overview.

And finally, the third is an exceptionally good and really insightful series of short articles about A-Class catamarans, and goes into rig design, hull design, C-foils, the problems associated therewith. It’s comparatively brief, but it packs a lot of insights. I for instance finally found the reason why boats with C-Foils have flat-bottomed stern sections. That was a mystery which I had been wondering about for ages. Turns out it’s all about increasing the pitch stability of the boat, and not really about planing lift; drag-wise it would be better to use semicircular hull sections.

Cheers,
Marco

 
 
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23 April 2014 00:47
 

I just saw on the website of PTWatercraft, where you can order the original Cheers posters at the moment, that they are working together with the Newick heirs to get the book ‘Project Cheers’ republished. I really hope that works out, it would be just great for that book to be accessible again!

 
 
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01 May 2014 09:52
 

An absolutely wonderful book about pacific island migration, voyaging, culture and the modern effort to revive it is here:

http://www.amazon.com/Vaka-Moana-Voyages-Ancestors-Settlement/dp/0824832132

Its an amazing book that is full of stuff I did not know about after decades of dabbling around in the subject.

chris

 
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01 May 2014 14:41
 

Oh, and if you want to see whats going on now in the Marshall islands, canoe wise, you should like this Facebook page…

https://www.facebook.com/wam.rmi?fref=photo

very cool pix today…

 
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17 May 2014 19:26
 

Admiral Paris’ Essai sur la construction navale des peuples extra-européens : ou, Collection des navires et pirogues construits par les habitants de l’Asie, de la Malaisie, du Grand Océan et de l’Amérique (1841) can be downloaded here:

https://archive.org/details/essaisurlaconstr02pris

Quite a few illustrations of Oceanic vessels. Note for example the very fat single outrigger vessel on plate 21. There are some Phillippine double-outriggers at beginning plate 69; some Carolines proas beginning at plate 106, the infamous Marianas flying proa drawing (with the incorrect fixed mast) on plate 109, the elegant TePuke on plates 114 (front view is missing the lower outriggers) and 115, the Fijian Thamaku on plate 116, the Tongan Alia on plates 117 &121;, a Tongan copy of the Thamaku on plate 119, and Tahitian boats beginning on plate 123. Some illustrations of construction and rigging details, and of boats sailing or on the beach. For those interested there are many illustrations of monohull junks as well.

 
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17 May 2014 22:13
 

Admiral Paris’ Essai sur la construction navale des peuples extra-européens : ou, Collection des navires et pirogues construits par les habitants de l’Asie, de la Malaisie, du Grand Océan et de l’Amérique (1841)

Thanks for the link. What an incredible book! The illustrations are really something - the attention to detail is remarkable, and also so aesthetically attractive. Thank you, Admiral Paris.